FINCON 2018, The All-Star Game
Wow, FINCON. To say it exceeded my expectations would be an understatement.
I’ve figured out money, how to save it, invest it, maximize it’s utility in my life. I reached financial independence in my early 40’s and semi-retired from my W2 job in my mid 40’s.
At the risk of sounding arrogant, in that aspect of life as compared to most Americans, I feel like a star. I’m far from having many other aspects of life figured out, but I’ve done well with money.
So when it comes to money, it’s easy to feel like the guy who’s hitting .340 with 45 homers on the otherwise crappy baseball team.
Well, to carry that analogy, going to FINCON was like getting selected for the All-Star game. I showed up and realized I’m not that special. All these other guys and gals are hitting .355, and they have 50 home runs.
When I got to the hotel they should have said “Please check your ego at the door and you can retrieve it in a shrunken state before you leave.”
Learn From The Best
But what a blessing. Once I got the 20 seconds of ego-deflation out of the way all there was left to do was learn from these incredible all stars. Learn how to get my batting average even higher, and hit more homers.
But most importantly what was important was to learn who they were. To just meet them. To talk about stuff, anything. Not just money and blogs and side hustles, but life.
To get back to old-school conversations about life, passions, problems, whatever. And preferably over a beer or two.
That sums up how I spent probably 90% of my FINCON. Just chewing the rag with people about anything.
If you’re saying “I can do that at home”. Well, yes.
But not with these people.
With these all stars any conversation had the potential of exploring the intellectual depths of science, health, and society – whatever. Or it could just as easily transition into thoughts on beer and the Onion. Ultra smart, and super fun.
FINCON proved that the FI lifestyle is way more than money optimization. It’s the people, the stories, the sharing of knowledge and lessons.
The money stuff is pretty straightforward. Can it be hard to execute? Absolutely.
But that’s why you engage with the community. To get help, to share the journey with them, the ups and the downs.
FI Serendipity
At one point on Saturday Susan from FI Ideas and I were sitting on a couch chatting about health related topics. We were geeking out and exchanging ideas about VO2 max, hematocrit levels, A1C blood tests, and vitamin D deficiencies.
If you’re wondering, no, we’re not doctors. We’re just curious people who read a lot. And what good is money anyway if you don’t have your health?
During the conversation I was telling her about my small skin cancer from a few years back and just as I spoke the word “dermatologist”, a woman who was randomly approaching to sit on the couch anyway said “oh I’m a dermatologist”.
??? Where else does that happen?
It was Bonnie from Miss Bonnie MD, she was just passing by. Serendipity. Then a minute later her friend Carrie from the Hippocratic Hustle Podcast joined and the four of us discussed skincare, the state of healthcare in America, and why they want to retire early.
I walked away from the conversation smarter, and with a slightly higher batting average.
Thank You
I met more people and had more conversations about more stuff in a four day period than ever before. And I can’t remember ever being surrounded by a more intelligent, down to earth, and fun group of folks in a long long time.
What’s best is the overarching umbrella, the ethos that served as our common denominator, was winning at money as a tool to win even bigger at life.
To everyone I interacted with – THANK YOU. I don’t want to even try to list all of the interactions I had for fear of leaving someone out. But I learned from each and every conversation and I hope to meet you again.
I’d like to especially thank Doc Green and Susan. I spent most of my time with these two wonderful people and I’m far richer for it.
Fincon sounds like great fun. I’d love to join at some point. Did you meet anyone from Europe who traveled only to join the conference?
I met a guy from Sweden who codes smartphone apps, but I’m sure there were more.
I really regret not going this year. I had just started blogging and felt I was unworthy of attending (ie not an Allstar).
Because of that I missed out on an opportunity to meet people I respect in person. It would have been nice to put a face to a blog and just interact with people face to face.
I made it a priority to attend next year so hopefully I still have my blog up and running and nothing arises to create a schedule conflict.
Hope to see you next year.
First off there were tons of blogless people, they count too! Your blog rocks and I wish you would have come.
That said I’m looking forward to meeting you next year or perhaps even somewhere in between. Thanks for supporting my blog!
I’m taking my daily teaspoon of cod-liver oil nowadays. Something about your 40s that makes it harder to produce good ol’ vitamin D. That and living in the frickin polar circle of MN.
As a .250 hitter, I’m glad to have the big guns in the 3/4/5 spot of the line-up to clear the bases for the rest of us. 🙂
Dude, you’re a .300+ hitter for sure!!
Seems like you had a blast! Hope to meet you one day too, FINCON (including all flights, etc.) is unfortunately a bit too expensive for my taste….. So we just organize our own local meetups. Also fun!
I can’t blame you, it would be pricey for you. Sounds like you have great network to collaborate with across the pond anyway!
Sounds like you had a great time!
I hope you can go next year in D.C.!
i’m glad you had a good and enlightening time. i remember showing up to college to run cross country and EVERYBODY was great. one guy made the olympic marathon trials. showed up with those shirts which were a trump card! bringin’ the heat with those bad boys.
THAT’s how you got so fast! Dayum!
Great recap. Wish we had gotten a chance to talk a bit more, but since you’re in the same area, hopefully we’ll get together at a local meet up soon.
Yes, definitely. Can’t wait for the next meetup!
I was trying to avoid these recaps because I was already feeling like I totally missed out, but this is exactly why I felt that way. Glad it was such a wonderful time, and hopefully I’ll get there one day – would love to meet you in person!
Really wish you could have come Angela but I’m sure we’ll meet one day. We’re both committed to this movement 😉
Yes! It will happen.
It was a thrill to meet you in person, hang with DocG, and to rub elbows and raise a glass with our heroes of the FI Community. The spark of energy and excitement was infectious. I loved the uncanny nature that our conversational dilemma of skin cancer vs. Vitamin D was met with a warm introduction and a great conversation, filled with eager and helpful sharing from Bonnie and Carrie.
The number of experts and curious minds at FinCon, all willing to become instant friends, brainstorm ideas, and give tips freely — I just don’t know of any experience like it. I just bought my early bird pass for Washington D.C. which means I just might have to take you up on that invitation to learn rock climbing. That helps your batting average, right?
Sweeet! I have to buy my pass for next year, I have no excuse not to go obviously.
And yes, my batting average keeps going up. Ted Williams here I come!
Sounds like it was a good time for sparking further passion and creativity for you. Good to see you got a run in while you were gone too.
I was Chris, was hoping maybe you’d be there. Think about D.C. next year!
I would love to do a drive through to the east coast and could even drive through your region on the way 🙂
Definitely let me know if that’ll be in the cards!
For sure ! I just need to start writing more personal finance and lifestyle content then 🙂
Dave, I had a great time connecting with you at FinCon and I definitely feel the same way. You are an amazing guy, brother. I am glad I found your blog and can’t wait to learn more from you and your experiences. FinCon was an eye-opener to ideas I never thought about before and I am more excited than ever to help spread the word out on the topic of FIRE.
Take care, my friend, and see you again at some point in the near future 🙂
Ed
Ed – Cool, glad you stopped by my blog! I really enjoyed our conversation and you and your wife have a great story. As young as you are starting this journey, you guys are pretty much guaranteed to succeed. Just keep doing what you’re doing, and let time and compounding interest do the rest 🙂
Thanks again for reading!
It was awesome to finally meet you. Keep on keeping on. And Bring back the turnip!!!
Oh the Turnip hasn’t gone anywhere… I’ve got one in the queue and another being drafted. Need to buy more bourbon 😉
You were the life of the party, and it wouldn’t have been as much fun without you!
Would you please explain how one attends these events yet stays anonymous as a blogger? Do you essentially have to be willing to give up a lot of your anonymity and hope that everyone you meet is discreet with what they say and post and with photos? Or do you just go by first name to say sort of anonymous and leave details of your life out of conversations so people can’t figure out who you are? This all seems tricky!
Great question… FINCON lets you just put your blog name or company name on your badge and will not put your real name on it if you request it to stay off. Especially since many of us request that.
Yes, obviously meeting people in person gives up what you look like to them, but it’s a pretty small community and the people are from all over the country. I’m mostly anonymous to because I still work and blog about my job sometimes. So as long as no one else from my job shows up, I’m okay 😉
Could you please say more about how one would attend something like this to be social yet maintain blogging anonymously? Do you mean that some people just put their blog name but no first name on their badge? Or do people use fake first names? And are you totally open in discussions with people you meet, or do you omit facts from your life that would make it easy to identify you on a google search?
It sounds like you are too concerned about being anonymous outside of work. But could someone navigate this if they did want to stay anonymous, yet they also wanted to attend conferences and meet other bloggers?
Yes, some people only list a blog name and others list just a first name. Whether it’s real or not is unknown. But the FINCON folks will work with you to put whatever you want on the name badge.
As for conversations, you’d have to juggle that yourself based on what you job is and how much information about your real self is out there on the internet. I’d refer you to a post on OurNextLife about staying anonymous. It should be easy to find.
Very jealous of your trip but glad to see you had an amazing time! I feel like I had a similar experience at Camp FI Midwest, though clearly not to the scale of FinCon. Always keep learning! You’ll be surpassing Ty Cobbs career batting average record soon enough 🙂
I may do a Camp FI, we’ll see. And Ty Cobb or Ted Williams – I’ll take either!
It was great to meet you at FinCon! Isn’t it great to see so many people of diverse background but with similar goals and values congregating in one place. It’s awesome! I spent a lot of time with Susan too. She is fantastic!
Yes, very nice meeting you too Doc!
Thank you DrMcFrugal. I really enjoyed meeting you and chatting in the pink flamingo. You are one of my heroes (of course it goes without saying that Dave is a huge hero of mine!)
It was awesome to meet you at FinCon!! It was a blast!!
Miriam
You too Miriam! Thanks so much for reading my blog!!
I feel exactly the same way! Except I’m batting closer to .250 with warning track power. It was great to meet you. I’m already looking forward to FinCon next year.
Ahh, we all start at that average. One minor adjustment to the swing and you’ll be going yard in no time!
It was a pleasure meeting you guys!
It was great to meet you AF. DocG too. I missed Susan though. FinCon is def worth it. I’m going to try to make it to DC next year.
The pleasure was all mine Doc, please come next year!
Hey man, it was so good to meet you at FinCon! I already loved your work. And it was great to see you get “fan-boyed/girled” so often! A sure sign of your upcoming success.
Keep it up and thanks for putting us with us doc bloggers!
TPP
I think your fans were just too awestruck and shy to introduce themselves to you.
Thanks for the support and keep doing what you’re doing man!
Great hanging out at Fincon! Let’s try to get together here in DC sometime before the next one 🙂
You too Andrew! Can’t wait for the next local meetup!
This sounds like a great time. I have seen a few posts from folks who went, and I could see myself heading over to one in a year or two.
It was awesome and I highly recommend anyone interested in investing, money, or FI attend!