The Horrors Of A Long Commute
In the early 1990’s I was fresh out of college and lucky to score a pretty low paying job at a small dotcom start up. With unemployment at 7.5% I took what I got and didn’t have the luxury of purposely picking something with a short commute. The thought didn’t really cross my mind. A job was a job.
The commute I ended up with was approximately 25 miles which took about 35 minutes in the morning and 45 minutes going home. I did that for three years and it was kind of bearable. I didn’t know any better.
Then I switched to my government job which came with a 30% raise. That was the good part. The bad part was that it was in Washington D.C. and I was still living in Baltimore. “I’ll figure it out”, I reasoned.
I knew that D.C. and its suburbs were way more expensive, but I didn’t realize how bad it actually was. It was clear that even with my 30% raise I couldn’t afford rent in D.C., or even most of the DC suburbs. Everything was just too damn expensive, even with roommates. And I was not going to go into debt. Growing up as I did I at least had that base level of financial acumen, thanks to my Mom.
Then my Grandma passed away and her longtime house was sitting empty. An empty house in Baltimore is a risk from the inevitable thieves and thugs that will raid it and strip it down to the bones if not protected.
So my mom agreed to let me live in my Grandmom’s house to keep it safe. And in turn I paid no rent since the house was paid off.
The downside? A 50 mile commute.
Miles Of Misery
D.C.’s traffic was then as it is now the worst or second worst in the United States. It’s notorious. So, I would purposely leave at 5:30 to get to work at 6:30. The morning drive was mercifully an hour or just a little over.
But going home frankly sucked. Even when leaving at 2:30 it was an hour and 10 minutes at a minimum, and usually an hour and a half or up to two hours on the worst days. It was white knuckle, everyone-for-themselves aggressive driving the whole time.
I tolerated that misery for 3 years. I will never do it again. It was stressful, dangerous, and life-endangering punishment of the worst kind.
I did it because I kind of had to. I couldn’t afford rent in D.C., and I could live rent free at my Grandma’s house. The lure of free rent and being able to save that couple hundred bucks a month was huge for a frugal person like myself. I religiously set aside the $400 that I used to pay for rent in my previous place and invested it.
That kick started my journey to financial independence. It was a blessing.
But the dark side of the blessing was the life-sapping commute.
It’s Literally Killing You
The health downsides of long car commutes don’t need to be studied more. They’re pretty well established.
Besides the long term health effects and the immediate danger of being killed in a fiery crash, there’s the wallet-draining aspect of car ownership. I’m not going to hash out all the costs since Mr. Money Mustache did a great job of it. And his numbers are now low because the post is old.
There are tons of horrible “commuting cost calculators” out there that conveniently avoid things like car insurance and maintenance. Don’t be fooled, commuting is expensive.
And of course there’s also the pollution factor. It’s more than greenhouse gas emissions, pollution comes from vehicle tires and brakes too, among other things.
Setting aside all of those clear negatives, my suicidal commute had another big downside. Every day at work the worry of the looming and unknown commute home put an ominous black cloud over my head.
In the back of my mind I was always worried that it would be “one of those 2-hour days”. The thought of that was literally beyond depressing.
Making plans after work was always a crap shoot. I might get home in time, I might not.
And when overtime opportunities popped up at my job during the day, I really couldn’t stay late and take advantage of them. If I wasn’t on the road by 2:30 or 3 the absolute latest, every 15 minute delay after that meant another 15 minutes of commute time.
Leave at 4:30? Haha!! Good luck getting home by 7.
At the end of three years of hell I was 50 pounds overweight and hated driving more than anything. I’m convinced it took a few years off my life.
Good Decision?
So did I make a good decision by staying in Baltimore rent free and making a 100 mile daily round trip commute? It’s true that I was able to save lots of money with no rent, but I now I question how much I actually saved. The real cost of that commute was far more than gas and maintenance.
After getting a few pay raises I finally moved down to the D.C. area. My only option was to share a house with four other guys, but I ditched the commute. I also started de-stressing, losing weight, and getting my health back. I swore I would never tolerate a car commute longer than 15 minutes again, and I’ve stuck to that pledge.
Now I ride my bike to work 2 days a week, and don’t care about the distance so much. Actually a little bit longer of a commute on the bike wouldn’t be bad at all, to me it’s an enjoyable ride and I get to work energized.
As a person who reached financial independence in his mid 40’s, my main recommendation to reach FI is still to save as much as you can on the big three. That recommendation is purely financial. But my second biggest recommendation would be to avoid a long commute and if possible avoid commuting in a car all together.
It’s not just important for your finances, it’s even more important for your health and for the health of the planet.
Your turn readers – How long is your commute and have you ever commuter an hour or more each way to work?
Mine is currently 4 miles round trip, but there was a three yr period I did 140 miles. It was a reverse commute which I convinced myself was ok. It was not fun in the winter when the fog would roll in and visibility was next to nothing. Priorities shifted when our children entered the picture. Never again.
4 miles is walkable, very nice!
I am at 2.1 miles, but there are several people at my hospital who drive well over an hour. I have never had an hour commute, 25 minutes was my worst when I lived in Nashville,TN. I have heard that town’s population has been exploding in recent years so it is probably worse now.
I wonder if the commuting risks from smart phones (i.e. texting and driving) have been offset by improved safety features in our vehicles over the last 10 years? Could be a wash, but still not for me.
Max
2.1 miles is a walk – nice! And yes, car crash deaths went down steadily after they peaked in the 1970’s because of vehicle safety measures like airbags etc. Then in the past 5 years they’ve started to go back up, obviously because of cell phones. But no one seems to care.
I actually have a long commute, 37 miles to work and back. Fortunately it is not the white knuckle stop and go driving of big cities. I typically average 60mph from door to door with the majority of the commute being on the interstate (which vast majority of time is very light traffic).
I use the drive to decompress by listening to music. Even when Icould afford it I tend to always gravitate away from the city where most of my jobs were. Just prefer the more rural/country settings.
But yeah, in a major city, I don’t think Icould tolerate that type of commute.
You sound like my best friend, he says “I’m just not a city person” and chooses to live way out there. But he’s also a car guy and loves driving, and he knows how much it drains his wealth.
I had a comparable commute in Atlanta for 8 years (1 hour in a.m., 90+ mins in p.m.), did it for lower cost of living, and to give my family the less urban lifestyle we prefer. Thank God for podcasts, and early retirement. I love FIRE, and I don’t miss that commute!
Wow, glad you made it through that. If I was forced at gunpoint to do that now I would also just mass-consume podcasts.
i only had one nasty commute. i went from new orleans to a nasty little racist city called bogaloosa, la. it was 75 miles each way and i didn’t have any a/c in my little pickup truck. i only lasted about 6 months at that job. i used to drive past david duke signs all the way up there.
Yikes, tat sounds miserable. And 75 miles is a haul, with no a/c in LA. That’s where you built;t your character 🙂
Time is JUST as valuable, in fact maybe even a tiny bit more valuable than money. You can always make more money, but you cannot get back more time, and like you said it’s bad for your health. It’s something I take into almost higher consideration than salary if I was considering a full-time job in LA. Even when I’ve had to commute for randon reasons other than a job, I always remind myself how thankful I am that I never had a bad commute in LA. In other cities I did, ironically.
I agree Tonya, to me the time taken by a long commute is too valuable. I’d get home from work and get a full hour-long workout in and think “some of my colleagues left when I did and they’re still going home“. To me that’s no way to live and it’s no wonder they have no time to exercise.
I never had to commute in my work life ever, although I did travel A LOT as a field technician going to remote locations and jobsites daily. That isn’t the same as driving the rat race commute every single day and can’t imagine what that would have been like. My son is actually in the same boat right now, he commutes 45 minutes everyday to work. He lives here at home rent free to an area that has the highest real estate on the island and extremely high priced rentals. He does this because he has an absolutely amazing employer and is paid extremely well for the work he does. I do hope though he finds a way to change or end the commute in the near future.
Totally different in your case, you were probably often getting paid to drive to go to a job. I don’t know of any employers who pay for a commute.
Yup, it was all paid time with a company vehicle so I was fortunate.
90 miles, just one way — I did that for my first 7 years in Engineering. Then I managed to find a job in Sacramento rather than the Bay Area. I spent the remaining 15 years of my career with a 50 mile one way commute.
Now you know why I was “ornery” about your FI happiness graph. I personally found that FI allowed me to unlock those golden handcuffs and retire. My graph is a step function because of the commuting! Isn’t that what this is all about? Yes, we will talk at FinCon — looking forward to it!
Holy schmoly, that’s a butt-ton of driving. You’ve done some serious miles in you life! Having that nastiness off your plate must be blissful!
6.2 miles and 12 to 13 minutes by car most days. This was actually somewhat lucky as I wanted the job anyway and I just happened to live close enough to make it pretty easy. But I’ve always wanted short commutes as I really valued my free time. My first two jobs were within walking distance. Once when I needed a job I just walked up and down the main street by my house and walked in cold asking for work. Actually got an offer from a company two blocks away but a bus ride to a much better paying job with benefits (30 to 40 minute bus ride) was well worth it for me in the end.
All that to say, while I love the idea of living out in the country, even long drives to the grocery store make me think twice about this plan.
That’s a nice and short one Pete, I love your philosophy of finding a job close to home
25 miles for me – takes ~45-50 minutes. I fill the time with a lot of podcasts, audiobooks, or conference calls. Thankfully it’s never stop-and-go traffic, just a long distance. It works, but there are very few places between work and home where I would rather live or work. For me, closer to work is cheaper, but worse for safety and schools.
At least you have modern conveniences to help with the time, and no traffic helps too
What about those with a spouse and kids? The burbs have much better public schools and the spouse likes the bigger and newer house. So everyone needs to accommodate you because you can’t stomach a long commute?
Is everyone supposed to accomodate me? I’m not even sure what that means Phillip, I just wrote a blog post with my opinion, told through a story. You can agree or disagree, but I don’t see how I’m asking anyone to ‘accomodate me’.
I lived just a few miles from my old job for years. The commute was very easy, but it also had a dark side. When something needs to be done in the evening, I’d go into work. Later on, we moved about 20 miles away. This made it easier for my wife. Our condo was close to her new job. The drive is pretty short with no traffic, but it took about an hour during rush hours. Usually, I took the light rail and I could read. That took about 90 minutes. Driving during rush hours really sucks. Fortunately, I don’t have to do that anymore. The good side of living further away is I very rarely went to the office in the evening.
You bring up a great point Joe, there is a potential downside of living too close to work. To me in those cases you just have to cultivate discipline, like anything else in life (diet exercise). Not saying it’s easy, but not much in life is 🙂
I walk a whole two miles each way for my commute and love it! If it’s icy or I’m sick, I’ll take a bus or train. If it weren’t for all the texting drivers I see along my route, I’d consider biking. But those texters make me nervous – I was nearly hit 3 times as a pedestrian last summer from texting drivers.
I haven’t always been this lucky. Like you, I had to share an apartment with a bunch of roommates to afford living in an expensive area. I was just outside Manhattan in North Jersey and hated that commute! I didn’t drive, but I never knew how long my commute would be. What was a 15 minute bus ride during non-commuting hours was easily 1-2 hours during rush hour. The train was just as bad because when it would randomly stop in a tunnel for an extended length of time. The only plus side of working in an office in NYC is that they’re generally pretty chilled out about arrival times, due to the unpredictability of the public transit. Where I work now, lateness is inexcusable.
As a former texting driver, it’s a terrible habit. I think a lot of it (like a lot of internet addiction) stems from FOMO. That doesn’t make it any less dangerous, of course, but people need to come to terms with the fact that they’re not actually missing out on anything. -_-
Texting and driving, don’t get me started. I want to keep this a more family oriented blog…
A 2 mile walk is perfect distance. Probably 25 – 30 minutes. Enough time to get moving and think a bit, but not too long. Sounds awesome!
I used to have a 30 mile one-way commute on the freeway that would take at least 45 minutes. It was technically “against traffic” and although the mornings weren’t too bad, the evening commute home was always a crapshoot on the traffic and the best route to take. After doing that commute for 3 years I decided to buy a Prius. Sure enough, 6 weeks after buying the Prius, I changed to my current job and my commute became 7 miles on local roads (approx 25 minutes, depending on traffic lights).
I don’t think I could ever go back to a long commute. I cringe at the people that have 60 to 90 minute commutes, plus pay up to $10 per day in tolls. No thanks!
I would love to bike to work, but the route would take me to over way too busy streets and I just don’t trust most of the drivers here to deal with a biker during rush hour!
I didn’t even mention tolls, which are now becoming more common here in the DC area. And as an avid cyclist I can’t say I blame you for not trusting drivers. I try to block it out and pray
Both at my first teaching job (in the West) and now at a school admin job (in Asia), I’ve had long commutes. In the former case, it was a 45-90 minute drive, due to both traffic and distance. In the latter case, the distance is relatively short (some ~10km each way), but there is terrible traffic. While I take the bus, it still takes ages, but thank God for podcasts & kobo readers!
If I could work remotely (under negotiation) or find something closer to home, that would be great!
I had to google kobo reader, had never heard of that company!
I hadn’t heard of it until recently either. A friend offered me a used one, and it works really well. Backlighting is optional. The device reads more formats than Kindle. The touchscreen/zoom works a lot better than Kindle (at least my older model). Oh, and it’s ever so slightly smaller than my old Kindle, so it fits better into bags, pockets!
FYI, this isn’t a sponsored comment. I’m just excited about my new (but used) ereader.
I plan on running my Andriod tablet into the ground, but when she eventually dies I’ll definitely consider one of these – thanks!
Mine is a couple of hours each way. But I stay over one night a week and 2 days Iam off-site in other company locations so it’s manageable. But I agree, commuting sucks. I have chosen this to allow us to live in an amazing part of the country, which is beautiful but there is not really any work in my field.
Holy smokes, that’s FAR! As I say, life is all about sacrifice and if you’re comfortable doing that to live where you want, then you’re doing it your way
Eesh, 100 miles a day is insane! The wear and tear on the car alone is ridiculous. Kudos to you for sticking it out as long as you did!
I’m lucky enough to work from home, so the idea of any commute fills me with dread. I don’t think I could handle much of one. If I ever had to get a job outside of the house, it would probably end up being a low-paying one since my experience is pretty specialized. In that case, I’d choose a place relatively nearby, like the movie theater or something, just to make sure that I didn’t have to deal with a heinous commute.
“Heinous commute”, that should have been my title.
I live 20 miles away from the office. I TW one day and commute 4 days. DC also has sluglines. In the morning I leave between 6:30 and 7 to get here in 30-35 minutes. In the afternoon, I pick up slugs and use the carpool lane. Sanity in tact. And I am not on our putrid public transit system. That would triple my commute time. Did that for seven years. Ugh!
I used metro everyday for about 4 years in the early 2000’s, it was a better system then but still not great. Now it’s barely passable.
Trains always seem more efficient, but they’re often packed. Where I live, you often have to wait 2-4+ trains before one will come with space for new passengers. That’s not to mention that, in my personal case, an open-air bus costs me 6.5x less than taking a train!
Commuting is 100% not worth it to me. Even a 35-40 minute drive that I had in SC (no traffic) felt like torture. The only way I’m commuting an hour to work is if it’s on my own two feet.
I could get into an hour walk, although I’d still rather bike it. But walking in a fun and busy city can be entertaining and engaging.
DC commutes are the worst. I went from Reston to DC for almost 12 years. Fortunately, I could take Metro a lot. The days I drove were brutal. I went to various locations Sometimes the commute was 45 minutes. Other times well over an hour. If there was an accident, rain (in DC it’s just like snow), or something else, you better hope you have enough gas in the tank.
As the years passed, more and more people moved into the area. It was a nightmare toward the end.
Now my commute is down a couple of flights of stairs to my office. It’s a beautiful thing. As you know, out here it’s not uncommon for people to have 2 plus hour commutes.
No thank you!
You know it man, this area is nuts. It’s by far the biggest downside of living here, and I don’t even drive much. But being trapped in a massive traffic jam is enough to put me in a deep depression. Enjoy your new ‘commute’
I currently work at home and only have to leave the house once every couple of weeks for face to face meetings. How much fun is it to work in pyjamas if you choose? I can walk my dog, cut the grass or have lunch on my back deck for a half hour and no one cares as long as the work gets done .
A couple of years ago, I was offered a promotion that came with a $25k pay raise that meant a 4 hour (!) round trip commute involving driving, a train and a subway ride. Transportation costs after tax would have been about $8000 per year. The toll on my health would have been 10x that amount. They were baffled when I turned down the promotion.
Ha, well you obviously made the smart move. You’ve got a great thing going on there, sounds awesome!
I read this and cringed, much like Fritz I did this for seven years in Atlanta. 9 miles that could turn into a one hour, aggressive, white knuckle type drive. I will never miss having to get up early enough to be out of my house by 6:45am to get through the worst of it. I even took a bath on my final house just to live next to the office and not deal with it for the final years I worked
Just today I came from an interview for a job that is a 46 miles round trip. I like the job, but I refuse to commute that much. Therefore, will not be taking this position if offered.
You’re a smart man Luis. If you add up the money (including cost of time) from that commute it’s probably pretty substantial.