How I Got The Government To Give Me 60,000 Southwest Points
As a financially independent semi-retired blogger, you probably assume I’m also an ace travel hacker. By all appearances most in the FI blogosphere seem to be.
Well, you’d be wrong. I’ve had a great rewards credit card for many years from US Bank that has done me well. But until recently I’d been reluctant to dive into the game of opening up cards specifically to bank points.
It sounds silly but I didn’t want the hassle of tracking another card, having another online site and password to keep, and changing all my automatic payments over to a card that I was only going to keep for a while.
So after reading post after post from blogging friends about how they’re killing it in the travel hacking game, I caved. It was actually a detailed post from Dr. McFrugal that helped push me over the edge. He laid the whole signup process out in a very detailed way, which is exactly what my lazy ass needed.
When I want to do something but am not totally psyched about it, I need my hand held. Else I might just keep kicking the can down the alley.
The Choice
The main decision I had to make was what kind of points I wanted, and I didn’t want to overthink it.
I decided I wanted Southwest points.
I fly Southwest for almost all of my climbing and cycling adventures these days, mainly because I’m usually hauling a ton of gear. And Southwest doesn’t charge for bags.
Not only do other airlines charge for bags, many then charge an extra fee if the bag is a bike. It’s robbery. Because Southwest is luggage friendly they’re the best and cheapest option for 90% of my adventures, by far.
And the Chase Southwest Business VISA card gives you 60,000 Southwest points as long as you spend $3,000 in the first 3 months.
Taxes As Leverage
Here’s the key to my strategy. Regular AF readers know that I purposely underpay my taxes during the year. It’s much smarter financially to take an interest free loan from Uncle Sam during the year than to give him one.
If you’re someone who gets a big tax refund every year, you should alter your W4 dependents to get more of your money now. Check out my previous post on the subject to find out how much money you’re actually losing by getting a refund. You’re missing out on investment gains by not having your money in the market, and you’re money is getting further eroded by inflation.
So for tax year 2018 I owed Uncle Sam about $1,900, and I owed my state another $850. Knowing that I would have these two bills coming due in April I applied for the Southwest card in late February. I had the card in hand by mid March. Then all I did was file my taxes and pay the two bills with the new card.
Boom – $2750 spent in two simple charges right off the bat!
That put me within $250 of the required spending to get the points. Then all it took was a trip or two to Aldi and paying my electric bill and I was done.
In a little more than a month after getting the card Southwest deposited 60,000 points in my account.
In short, I used my taxes as leverage in two ways.
- I’m keeping money that I know I’ll owe in taxes to myself for an extra year and investing it. That way it makes more. It still blows me away that everyone doesn’t do this.
- When the bills come due for those taxes I then use that money to cover virtually all of the spending requirement to get my signup points on my new credit card.
So Uncle Sam and my state basically “paid for” almost all of my 60,000 Southwest points.
The card has a $99 annual fee which you have to pay up front when opening. So in the end the 60,000 miles cost $99 plus about $30 in fees to pay my taxes online. That’s one hell of a deal. Plus I get 1 Southwest point for every dollar spent, or 2 points per dollar on Southwest purchases.
To avoid paying the $99 annual fee a second time I plan to cancel the card before it’s charged. I actually plan on doing this every year, so after I cancel this card next March Ill open a new one and pay my 2019 taxes with it.
The sign up miles must be used before I cancel the card or they will be forfeited, but I shouldn’t have a problem doing that. Correction: I was told this on the phone by a Chase representative but apparently it’s not true as my trusty blogger buddies have informed me 🙂
I always have outdoor adventures planned, and they will be used. I didn’t semi-retire early to sit on my ass and watch Netflix.
Your Turn Readers – Have you travel hacked before? If not why not?
That is a nice travel hack indeed Dave. Dr McFrugal is killing it with his credit card churning system and I saw that post as well where he lays it out brilliantly.
Don’t forget that you also have to add the fee typically charged by the govt when you pay with a credit card so those 60k points cost a little more than $99 but it still is a bargain.
That’s true Doc, I think I paid about $30 in CC fees for paying the taxes online. Full transparency 🙂
You can’t hack the same card every year. Chase has a 48 months limit on collecting bonus from the same card.
I just got declined from Chase Business Ink. 🙁
Also, you should create a spreadsheet to track the cards and when you open them.
Southwest card sounds like a good idea. Let me check how much a flight cost.
I thought that might be true but see I’m a noob. I know they have a personal one that gives 50,000 points for signup so I’ll probably do that one. And yes I have the spreadsheet already 🙂
Ha, we actually just did the exact same thing for the Chase Southwest card. I fly back and forth between LA and Norcal to visit my parents all the time, so we just decided to pay our quarterly taxes with the card and wham – instant savings. I had heard that you can close the card and your points will still be available as long as you take qualifying flights every year … is this not the case?
I had to call them to set up my online account as they were having web problems and the woman on the phone told me I’d lose the signup points if I canceled before one year, but the next commenter says that’s not true. That’s good news!
retirebyforty is correct that you can’t hack the same card every year due to their terms and conditions, but luckily Chase offers 4 variety of Southwest credit cards that are each considered separate cards. So you can apply for a different version next year and still get the sign-up bonus.
Also, your miles will not expire if you cancel this particular card. Since they are Southwest miles and exist in your Southwest account now, they will only expire according to Southwest terms and conditions.
Now, if we were talking about a reward system that is tied to an issuing bank, like Chase Ultimate Rewards points or AMEX membership points or Citi Thank You points, those will expire if you cancel the card. However, you can also get around this if you just have another credit card that exists in the same ecosystem (ie, if card A & B are both Chase UR points credit cards and you cancel card A, you can still keep all the points you earned with card A because card B is still a Chase UR points credit card.) So one trick is to apply for card A to get the sign-up bonus, then when the first year anniversary is almost up, apply for card B that uses the same point system (if you haven’t used up all the points from card A yet). Hope that made sense.
Thanks for the detailed comment! I had to call Chase to set up my online account and the woman must’ve given me bad info about the points expiring. And yes I plan to open the Chase SW personal card next spring which has a signup of 50k points, then I’ll do the business card again the year after that.
I have kind of a side point to make here. You mentioned the hassle of remembering yet another password. I am a big fan of the online password managers. I pay to use one of the major ones, LastPass in my case, but there are several good ones. Having that ability to use one password to have access to complicated and distinct passwords for all my sites is a great tool. That small annual fee is worth my piece of mind and convenience. If you don’t use one, I highly recommend you consider one of the major players in that market.
I used to use a password manager but the site got wonky and I stopped. I’ve been looking to go back and try LastPass but have been lazy about it, thanks for the reminder!
Newbie here! What kind of guarantee or whatever is there that the password manager is safe, not getting hacked, bad employees, etc?
There is no guarantee, everything is hackable at some level. Welcome to 2019 🙁
Great idea! I used my annual condo fee payment to get 50k points on my Chase card earlier this year, since my condo association only charged me a $14.95 fee (I expected a 2.5-3% fee). I’ve skipped paying taxes with credit cards so far, but if it’s to meet the minimum spend, it’s a great idea!
Nice hack on the condo fees Katie, well done!
Nice hack on the taxes and the rewards card. Roughly how much does a flight cost out of that 60,000 points?
Thanks Chris, SW tickets can range anywhere from 10,000 pts to 40,000 pts for a roundtrip, or even possibly lower for short flights. I used points for my recent Grand Tetons trip including the rental car. Both together cost me about 30,000 points, so half of the signup bonus. But I booked at the last minute and that could have been cheaper if I booked earlier. Typically I’d say I should get three flying vacations out of 60,000 points.
3 alpine trips for paying your taxes, now that is badass 🙂
Southwest doesn’t fly near me. I have a Bank of America Amtrak card- ordinary expenses pay for a super-deluxe multi-day sleeper train trip every year! I also have an Allegiant (small airline) card. Usually get a “free” trip every year, too. But I’m no expert! Learning from you-thanks!
Well I’m no expert either but glad my post helped!
Ohh, great job on this. We’re just starting using credit cards, as newly immigrants, but I start liking the idea of rewards. Will look more into this, as we are actually passionate travelers and it can cost us a lot without such tricks.
Awesome!
i love southwest airlines. they’re the only one with nice employees and i like just checking a bag even for a short trip. i had that card for years and it was good for about one free round trip per year but i got tired of the annual fee. it’s still a pretty good deal if you fly a decent amount but i went for 1.5% cash back and no fee. i have almost 400 in rewards right now and that would be good to some west coast destinations and back on “off” travel days.
As Doc McFrugal told me they usually give you 6000 bonus points at your card anniversary. Based on the value of SW points it’s almost exactly the same as the $99 fee, so I guess they’re doing that on purpose. I’ll have to make a decision to keep or open up the personal one that gives 50k points. It’s the points on opening that are the real cash cow.
Welcome to the world of travel hacking. I’m just dipping my toe back in to get ready for a London trip. I’ve got the American Airlines rewards. Now I just need to get the hotel card. I don’t like paying the fee to pay my taxes online, but hell if it gets me rewards maybe it’s worth it? I’ll have to consider that. Especially since I pay both FICA and quarterly tax payments four times a year. Hmm…. You’ve given me something to think about.
The fees to pay taxes online are pretty small. I ran the numbers and it’s worth it since those cards give such a big sign up bonus. Might not be worth it on a regular card w/out the sign up points
I’m a pretty lazy travel hacker but I sure do love paying for flights and lodging with Monopoly money 😜
I’m passin’ go, I’m collecting my $200, I’m buying Boardwalk and Park Place, life is GOOD 🙂