Smart, Hardworking, And Reliable Is Often Enough

Smart, Hardworking, And Reliable Is Often EnoughI stumbled upon a really interesting article in USA Today recently that got me thinking about employment in the modern age.  The article detailed how many companies are snapping up talented folks even when they don’t have positions available for them.  It got me thinking about how we hire at my W2 job. 

Around three years ago when I was a senior manager in charge of a lot of people and money, I was careful who I hired to work in my office.  I recall trying to fill a vacancy for an important project in one instance and realizing I wasn’t going to find a person with the exact skills I needed.  My team just wanted a candidate to come in and knock my socks off with ambition.  We wanted someone to show that intangible “thing” that assures you they’ll do what it takes.

We interviewed a few candidates and weren’t impressed at all.  Time was ticking.  Then one day a young analyst came in for an interview.  She had a very good resume, but again I wanted the intangibles. 

It went a bit like this:

Me: “We have this big project that’s going to require a ton of data normalization and quite a lot of coding in Python.  Do you know Python?”

Candidate:  (confidently) “No, I’ve been coding in Ruby and Java.  But I’ll learn it.”

Me:  “Okay.  Even though you’d be new with us your position would likely be leading the project.  Do you think you could learn the skills and lead the project at the same time?  It would demand that.”

Candidate:  (even more confidently)  “Absolutely!  I’ll do what it takes I love to learn and I love to lead.  I guarantee you won’t be disappointed if you hire me, guarantee.”

She had a lot of confidence, but it wasn’t cockiness.  It’s impossible to portray the vibe I got from her in a few lines of remembered conversation, but I was blown away, as were the other 4 people on the interview panel.  We assessed the person, the attitude.  The things that you can’t gleam from a resume. 

You just knew that this was a person who was going to do whatever it takes to succeed.  Sure, that’s a pretty bold character judgement to make in what amounted to a one hour interview.  But we were sold.  We hired her and she became one of my superstar employees. 

And she learned Python with ease.

 

90% Of Success…

Smart, Hardworking, And Reliable Is Often EnoughI’m realizing more and more that being smart, hardworking, and reliable is often enough to get many jobs.  Even jobs you’re not fully qualified for.  This obviously doesn’t apply to professions like being a doctor or architect.  But I’m talking about general “knowledge jobs”, which these days are mostly engrossed in tech.

On paper the employee in my story above was not really qualified for the specific position.  We were looking for someone with Python skills who had led a project before.  We knew it was a stretch, but why not shoot for the moon. 

In the end we took someone who was smart, hardworking, and reliable.  That won the day.  Sure, she had coding skills and that assured us her background was at least in the same arena that the position demanded.  But the key thing I learned is we often get too hung up on demanding prospective candidates be fully qualified for a job.

Look at the amazing job market we have now.  Right now in America the supply of jobs is more than the workforce can meet.  Yes, there are actually more jobs available than those who are out of work.  Employers are clamoring to bring on people, so you would think they can’t afford to be super selective with laundry lists of software skills or programming languages.  But they often are

As a recruiter from that NPR article says:

“We understand that you would love to have that perfect employee, but give me a couple of things a successful candidate would look like for this specific job on this shift.  For instance, do these candidates only need to show up on time, get along with co-workers and be able to lift 35 pounds, or do they need to be able to operate a computer?”

Peter Cappelli, a professor at Pennsylvania’s Wharton School says “They’re just asking for the moon, and not expecting to pay very much for it.  And as a result they [can’t] find those people. Now that [doesn’t] mean there was nobody to do the job; it just [means] that there was nobody at the price they were willing to pay.”

He adds, “Wages have not gone up despite all the talk about a tight labor market. And I think most important for the economy, we still don’t see lots of employers being willing to take people in right out of school and train them for jobs”.

These are really salient points.  In my experience, Capelli is right.  You can’t write a position description with a laundry list of skills and expect to find the unicorn that will match it.  Rare is the job these days in knowledge work that doesn’t require picking up new skills along the way. 

Demanding a candidate check a long list of boxes as a requirement to be hired is likely a prescription for a permanent vacancy.

 

Get Ahead Of The Curve

Smart, Hardworking, And Reliable Is Often EnoughEmployers in the knowledge world often don’t know what they don’t know.  How do you know you need a certain position or not if the very idea that would create it hasn’t been presented yet?  Steve Jobs said:

It doesn’t make sense to hire smart people and tell them what to do; we hire smart people so they can tell us what to do. 

Jobs went on to explain that once you give good people autonomy, flexibility, and resources, they’ll run with it and figure it out.  You just need to stay out of their way.  And of course bring good people on in the first place. 

In the same article Warren Buffet advises to look for integrity, intelligence, and energy.  Those sound like precursors to smart, hardworking, and reliable.

Getting back to the original USA Today article, should you hire the person with the impressive resume even though you don’t even have a specific position for him or her?  For companies in knowledge work or fields that demand creative output, it could make sense. 

If you know you’re going to need another data scientist soon but might not have the actual position opened yet, it’s probably wise to bring that superstar on board now.  Who knows what great ideas he or she will incubate as a mere result of integrating and seeing how you do business. 

As mentioned in the article, more and more companies are saying “There’s no immediate opening but we’re going to bring you on anyway, the person helps build their job description.”

So where does this leave you as an employee looking to score a job you’re not necessarily qualified for?  Besides the “givens” of having integrity, intelligence, and energy, from my experience in hiring folks who excelled in positions they weren’t qualified for, here’s a few things:

  • Be willing to learn.
  • You may have to learn very fast. 
  • Be confident but humble. 
  • Be curious.
  • Don’t be afraid to fail (within reason).
  • Just show up everyday, work hard, and do it! 

These things don’t sound very difficult, but when put to the test in real life many people fall short. 

It’s 2019.  You could sit down right now and go down a rabbit hole of free or low cost online training classes on virtually any subject in the world, and not come up for days.  Learning has never been cheaper, easier, or more accessible. 

If you’re an employee, go for that job that you think you might not be qualified for.  You can probably learn what you need to know.  And if you’re hiring right now, don’t expect a unicorn every time, consider a hard working learner.

 

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36 Responses

  1. xrayvsn says:

    I was part of the admissions committee when selecting applicants from medical school for a pretty competitive radiology residency.

    I totally get the “vibe” feeling necessary for an applicant to stand out. We had many med students who were near top of the class and had honors etc but knew would not be a good fit for our program because of some intangibles sensed (some were purely book smart and did not seem like a good social fit for the program which is just as important in my opinion)

    Often the ones that got pushed into the accept pile or consider pile did not have as high a score in things but you just knew it was a good fit for the program.

    • Dave @ Accidental FIRE says:

      Yep, and more and more companies are using AI algorithms to screen resumes. This is a mistake to me. AI will never be abe to feel the ‘vibe’ that we speak of.

      • M says:

        I’ll caution you about putting too much weighting on “vibe” and “fit.” It is too easy to use this as a reason to hire someone that is just like me (or the team). It can be the usual gender and race discussion, but also people from the same schools, demographics, degree/majors, etc. A well rounded team really does bring an important “diversity of thought” to business problems.

        • Dave @ Accidental FIRE says:

          I hear you but that is no worry for me and my team – we seek and get plenty of diversity. And diversity is most important for the realms of experience, background (what businesses have they worked in) and thought someone brings to the table. That’s the kind of diversity to seek and that creates high-performing teams.

    • Katie Camel says:

      I’m a nurse in an academic hospital and have no qualms voicing my opinion about medical students, especially sub-Is, to our team. If one is not the least bit helpful, disinterested, or rude, I report it. When I find the opposite, I report that too and ask to bring that student onto the team. Our team feels the same way you do that in that someone can be great on paper, but if they’re awful to work with, why bother? They want the cream of the crop AND the right personality, so that’s the goal. This method generally works out pretty well and maintains an overall productive and happy team.

  2. I love the example of the girl you hired to lead the project It’s a tough balance to exhibit confidence without being arrogant. The fact that all four on your team saw the same thing is pretty special. I wonder if that’s a rare situation today.

    My wife has been through the other side of that at her job. She’s been at the company 15 years, knows her job inside and out, brings a positive attitude, is a great leader and team player. Yet she’s been passed over time and time again for a promotion to the level for lesser experienced people with advanced degrees. In almost every case, they have been horrible managers.

    Kudos to you and your team for recognizing what’s important.

    • Dave @ Accidental FIRE says:

      Thanks Fred, and sorry to hear that about your wife. Her story is no-doubt repeated a lot across America

  3. I can’t wait to use that Steve Job’s quote! The unicorn is a great example. Often when browsing jobs I look at jobs related to my position as project manager. Like project administrator or associate project manager. Sometimes the “requirements” for these openings are more than I needed to get my job. Associate is a entry level position and they want 5 years of experience! Crazy

  4. As a former hiring manager I agree 100 percent. Many experts just blow hot air. I want someone with a work ethic who is a good fit for the team. Everything else can be learned.

  5. i work on the archaic side of all this progress. our place is now looking for 4-5 years factory experience to come at start on a job that would take 3-4 weeks to learn either way. some dingleberry out there thinks they’re getting better candidates this way but i think they’re overlooking more good ones than they hire.

    i remember having an interview for a pharma type company and answering “no, i haven’t developed drug molecules, but i’ll figure it out.” they made a mistake not hiring me and it’s not like it was phD level work or anything. it was more like: follow these instructions written by a pointy headed phD and run the reaction.

    • Dave @ Accidental FIRE says:

      So true man. Even in many technical pursuits like you stated there’s often a formula or rough ‘recipe’ to go by from those who are doing it. I think too many people underestimate what a smart person can learn from others in an OJT or mentoring set-up.

  6. RE@54 says:

    The young lady reminds me of our interview process we went through last year. We had several PhD candidates that could talk a good game, but could not explain the basics on the instruments we use. Then this 24 year old recent college grad who worked in a lab while going to school came in and showed the understanding of the basics and the willingness to learn new things. My boss was all about the title though. We had several discussions and eventually, she did hire the 24 yr old. Time and time again he has shone.

  7. Bob Haegele says:

    As someone who has only been on the opposite side of the equation (a candidate), I have to say that I appreciate this. I have often felt that hiring managers are expecting the perfect candidate to just fall into their lap. In the real world, though, I think that is a bit unrealistic.

    But as you say, a smart, dependable employee can learn new skills. Besides, even if that person has every skill on paper, it’s extremely likely they will have to learn lots of new things for this particular position. I wish more hiring managers understood this.

  8. What timing. I just made the case today, to my director, that we should hire a candidate that didn’t have the perfect resume, but demonstrates the qualities you mention: smart, hardworking, and reliable. I’ve used this model in the past. I keep a sticky near my desk with the 4 e’s from Jack Welch. They’re the things I make note of during interviews: Energy, Energize, Edge, Execute. He also adds a ‘p’ for passion. I view the ‘p’ as a thread that should run through all the other attributes.

  9. Chris Roane says:

    This speaks volumes with my experience in the tech field. The best people I’ve hired could not check all of the experience boxes. A few other attributes that rank high on list, in addition to what you pointed out: excellent at communication, problem solving ability, reliable, detail oriented and friendly. Great article!

  10. Rachel says:

    So many places seem like they just want specific skills instead of trusting smart people to learn them! I feel like they should read this article

  11. Mr. r2e says:

    This is like the Southwest Airlines mantra – Hire for attitude and they will teach you the rest.

    Too many times in my 28 years I saw book smart people promoted into leadership only to fall flat on their face.

    • Dave @ Accidental FIRE says:

      Yep SWA knows how to do it right which is why it’s almost always great interacting with their folks.

  12. This is definitely the kind of thought process my company has as well. Kinda have to be more flexible with smaller teams as well I think.

  13. Absolutely, it’s about the person. If they have the right attitude and aptitude, I’d hire them.
    As an employee, I’m usually on the other side of the table. I look for a good team with a good manager. That’s more important than the specific job or pay. It took me a long time to learn that.

  14. Hi – the USA Today article is interesting. I can’t believe companies have the budget to hire without having an opening to begin with. It must be nice to work for a company which has money to spend like this and a willingness to invest in human capital even though there isn’t an immediate need.

    • Dave @ Accidental FIRE says:

      Here in the DC area there are tons of companies like that. We have lots of tech and they’re growing fast

  15. Mr. Tako says:

    You know I’ve interviewed for tech jobs where I didn’t check all of the boxes. Being willing to learn and hard working wasn’t enough. They really are looking for unicorns that don’t exist. They don’t expect you to “learn the job” once you’re hired on, they expect you to know the job already.

    I found it quite sickening actually, and one of the reasons why I finally decided to leave the workforce.

    • Dave @ Accidental FIRE says:

      Wow, didn’t realize this hit home to your situation that much. Well, you’re free now 🙂

  16. I’m pretty sure this is how I’ve tricked people into hiring me. For real, though, I needed to hire someone with technical skills, but I hired the one with the least technical skills. Why? She showed up to the interview and I was running late. She somehow bypassed security (and you need a key pass to get through the doors) and made it to my floor and was wandering around looking for me. The type of person who can figure stuff out like that was a good sign. She ended up being a superstar employee and ended up being stolen away by another department!

    • Dave @ Accidental FIRE says:

      Bypassing security shows technical skills, right? 😉

      You obviously know how to pick them, as others knew how to pick you.

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