Comparison Is Good

“All right boys, are you ready?” he said confidently to us, with a determined smile.  I looked at my friend Brian, smiled, and said “ok I guess it’s game on with these guys”.

We were on our bikes in a huge event called Ride The Rockies which is an annual bike ride across Colorado.  It’s six days of riding, each around 60 – 100 miles.  And since it’s Colorado that means tons of huge mountains and long uphills.  We were about to start a massively long 22+ mile climb to the summit of Grand Mesa, the largest flattop mountain in the world

Comparison Is Good

The views in Ride The Rockies are blissful

 

That’s right, more than 22 miles of climbing on a bike, with an average gradient of 5%.  For the fastest riders including professionals that means at least 2 to 3 hours of continuous uphill.  

The guy who just said “are you ready?” was one of three guys we had just met in the past hour while riding.  They seemed cool and we we’re getting along great with them on the flat roads outside of Grand Junction leading up to the climb.  We all seemed equally fit and fast.  

But now it was time to go uphill for a few hours, and they clearly wanted to crush it.  So we started crushing it with them.

Then I immediately started thinking about food. 

 

Comparison vs Pancakes

Ride The Rockies is not a race so there are numerous rest stops along the way, with copious food, water, and port-a-potties. 

Comparison Is Good

yeah… we’re not passing that up

I like the rest stops because I like to eat.  When you’re burning about 10,000 calories a day, putting those 10,000 calories back in is part most of the enjoyment. 

It was clear our three new friends were determined to get the best recorded time they could up the mountain on Strava, the wildly popular social media app that allows you to record your rides and compare your times to others.  

As we approached the first rest stop I could see the infamous “Dan the Pancake Man” was there.  He cooks up endless stacks of pancakes on a trailer behind his truck.  

I reminded my two friends that pancakes are good and we should stop.  They blessedly agreed.  We informed our new friends that we were going to stop at the rest stops on the way up, and one of them said “don’t you want to know how fast of a time you can put up on the climb?”. 

Well, to be honest I did want to know.  But just not that particular day.  Comparison could wait.  

Comparison

 

Sometimes It’s Good To Compare

You’ve likely heard the advice to stop comparing yourself to others.  Quotes like “comparison is the thief of joy”, or “compare and despair” are common.  And we’ve all heard how social media is making people depressed because they compare their lives to the best parts of other peoples lives. 

While I think these things are mostly true, I also think comparison has lots of benefits if approached the right way

  • Comparing yourself to someone else can be inspiring by showing you what’s possible. 

When you see someone earning and saving way more than you, or crushing it in real estate while you’re floundering, it’s easy to get depressed.  But with the right attitude you can frame their success as a goal.

I previously wrote about Roger Bannister breaking the 4-minute mile.  Soon after he did it numerous other runners did as well, because he showed them what was possible.  They didn’t get depressed at comparing themselves to him, they used his achievement to rise to his level. 

When I look at the fast times on Strava segments in my neighborhood it doesn’t depress me, it shows me how much better I can get if I keep training.  Especially when I know the dude who put up the time.  Usually he’s just an average jabroni like me. 

  • Comparison with someone else can also bring out what I call “positive competitiveness”. 

Competitiveness has negative connotations because it’s often associated with ruthlessness or wishing failure on others.  Positive competitiveness to me just means wanting to achieve the same level of success as someone else, but also wishing them further success.  Because if they achieve even more success then your positive competitive nature will spur you on to do the same, and the cycle repeats. 

It’s like a symbiotic relationship of achievement.  When you see someone ahead of you it’s best to say “I’m grateful for what I’ve accomplished, and I’m working on getting to that next level” 

It’s best to avoid using the FIRE blogger with the $5 million net worth and the 6-figure side hustle for competitiveness.  Pick someone who is slightly ahead of you in a certain measure, and use that persons success to spur you on. 

Comparison

One of the long climbs, I love them so…

 

Your Past Self

The best kind of comparison is the comparison with your past self.  It’s probably safe to say that none of us are trying to get worse at life, we’re trying to get better.  The only way to measure that is to compare to your former self. 

Are you getting better at saving?  Are you earning more?  Do you find it easier to resist the allure and trappings of lifestyle inflation?  These are the comparisons that you need to be looking at to help you get to financial independence. 

I think it’s almost always good to compare yourself to your former self, assuming you want to improve.  Sure, as we age comparing our physical performance or looks to our former self could bring sadness or depression, so there are some caveats.  But if you approach aging with a stoic mindset you should expect those things to happen, and maybe even enjoy them. (i’m working on this…)

 

Conclusion

So perhaps the title of this post is a wee bit click-baity.  Comparison is not always good.  If you’re a person who is extremely self-critical and hard on yourself as I have sometimes been in the past you might want to steer clear of comparison. 

But I’ve found comparison to my old self the best way to improve, and comparison to others very helpful if I pick the right measures and go in with a positive mindset

Those guys we met at Ride The Rockies wanted to spend the whole event smashing it and comparing their times to others.  I’ll admit I enjoy doing that, but there’s a time and place.

After all, comparison is human nature and it’s silly to pretend you can completely cease doing it.  But what you can do is approach it as a tool for inspiration, positivity, improvement, and gratefulness. 

And it might just help you get to financial independence faster.  Just have your pancakes first.

 

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Dave @ Accidental FIRE

I reached financial independence and semi-retired in my mid-40's through hard work, smart living, and investing. This blog chronicles my journey and explores many aspects of personal finance including the psychological and behavioral factors that drive our habits.

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32 Responses

  1. Xrayvsn says:

    It is wild you wrote this post. I finished up a post yesterday where I had a line about comparison can also be beneficial as well. Not sure when it will be put on the schedule but probably in next month or so. Great (or weird) minds think alike. Lol

    I agree if doing healthy comparison it should be someone in similar situation and not with someone exponentially ahead.

  2. Steveark says:

    My wife and I are in our mid sixties now, and comparison with yourself can have a dark side when I compare my distance running versus the 46 year old or even the 56 year old version of me. We also play competitive tennis and that has help up better for me but I can tell my best day now is never going to be as good as former me’s best day. So I think you have to temper comparison. You can compare yourself to other players your own age but at some point the battle becomes just staying in the game and granting yourself the kindness to get older.

    • Dave @ Accidental FIRE says:

      Agree Steve, and as I said in the post applying it to physical performance or attractiveness is not a good thing after a certain age. Unless you cultivate a stoic-type mindset about it. We’re all going to get weaker, wrinklier, and die – newsflash! But knowing that and going into the process with a positive mindset can change everything, I’m seeing that already for myself but have much work to do.

  3. I’m glad you implied in your conclusion that the right way for one person is not necessarily going to be the right way for another. For some of us, it might even be the right way one day and not the next. Depending on my mindset, I might be very happy to see someone crushing it, or I might see that and be crushed myself because I can see just how far I have to go.

    (…and then I compare myself to others with regard to how well or how badly I react to others’ successes!)

    • Dave @ Accidental FIRE says:

      Oh yeah, great comment. The comparison game is probably different for everybody. Some may have a higher tolerance and be able to frame things in a positive way more often, others less so. I’m striving for a state to always be happy for others success, even if it’s where you want to be. Use it to strive, not be upset.

  4. i love comparing myself against the market indices. if you’re gonna tout my way as A WAY to invest you gotta keep score! back when we were running a lot in my little rural town the other teenagers on my team were pretty good after a few years. if i could beat all of them we were gonna have pretty good success as a squad. in those workouts we would beat the tar out of one another and that rising tide lifted all our boats.

    i like the idea you had of picking the right targets for inspiration.

    • Dave @ Accidental FIRE says:

      You do a great job of highlighting the #’s of your comparison, keeping score is important if you’re gonna play the individual stock game. And as kids I agree that comparison was almost always good, mainly to develop faster. But as soon as various social aspects of young adulthood enter the picture like looks and social stigmas then the comparison game can get ugly quick. Enter social media and it’s a disaster.

  5. Hi Dave! This post was timely because I recently started a blog and have noticed I’m comparing myself to all the established blogs out there and feeling inept 🙂 I agree with your points and I’ve been trying to think of it as inspiration rather than being hard on myself. It’s all about having an awareness of whether the comparisons are productive and trying to transform them into a positive force!

    • Dave @ Accidental FIRE says:

      Congrats on your new blog! Believe it or not I was once there too, in November of 2017. I put up a few posts and was thinking “what am I doing here, I got 18 pageviews yesterday…”.

      My best advice: We all started at position zero. You have something no one else has – your story. Tell it, tell it well, make it relatable, and your people will find you. Be consistent, show up, do the writing.

      Thanks for the comment and best of luck!

  6. “…a symbiotic relationship of achievement.”

    Great concept, Dave. A positive attitude can benefit in many areas, including how we view competition. I also compare my “current self” to my “older self”, but more in the area of attitude than in physical achievement. Age has a way of slowing us down, but as long as I’m still physically active with an increasingly positive attitude, all is good (even if my PR’s will never be beaten). Great post, great pics. Looks like an awesome event.

    • Dave @ Accidental FIRE says:

      Active folks like you and I are “slowing down” way slower than 90+% of America. We just gotta keep at it. I saw your mountain bike wound that you posted last week, that’s the kind of “blood work” that will keep us living long!

  7. Mr. Fate says:

    Agreed that comparison isn’t necessarily a bad thing. For me it’s boils down to the basis. Simply comparing one’s self against others is generally a poor idea, but using others as a way to measure one’s self against one’s potential can be very beneficial. A good example was from my last post about seeing how the extraordinary level of kindness I witnessed caused me to examine my own and served as an inspiration for me to to better.

    • Dave @ Accidental FIRE says:

      “measuring against potential”, I like that. The problem with me is that I probably underestimate my potential beforehand. Exceeding it is good too, but I often don’t know where to set the bar.

  8. Pete says:

    Always the pancakes. Always.

    I do comparisons all the time with finances but it’s specifically against overall data. Helps me realize that I’m in a great spot and can enjoy that fact. No sense stressing when I’m way up there in annual income and net worth for my age.

    • Dave @ Accidental FIRE says:

      Comparing against average data or median results is a good thing too,I should have listed that. If anything there’s something good in knowing you’re doing better than average, that means something.

  9. Comparing yourself to the right people is priceless. However the wrong comparisons can be really bad, for me at least. For example, I’m a big time strength enthusiast and used to do quite a lot of Powerlifting training. In my younger years I used to compare my results to world class athletes and instead of it motivating it me it got me depressed. It’s pretty much the same as comparing my finances now to someone with a $10M net worth.

    Now I compare mainly to my past self, like you said. Every time I think I’m not making any progress I just open up my training journal or financial google sheets and smile.

    P.S – I’m so jealous of the view on your ride!

    • Dave @ Accidental FIRE says:

      Comparing to world class athletes is almost always bad. They’re usually genetically gifted and then have full time to build on that lucky base. And like you I love looking at my net worth spreadsheet, which I will do tonight since I update at the end of every month. Mine goes back to 1997, so I can see 23 years of progress!

  10. Comparing your current self with your past or goal self is a big motivator. Even just comparing your pace on a race with the target pace you’ll need is a fundamental training exercise.

    I’ve been looking into augmented reality a lot lately and one thing that’s really neat in that space is the idea of going running or biking wearing AR glasses and actually seeing an artificial pace-person running ahead of you. That could be your best time, your ideal time or even just some other persons time to use as a pace car. Same kind of thing as this!

    • Dave @ Accidental FIRE says:

      Yes! AR is developing fast indeed. The virtual riding platform Zwift has that feature I believe. I don’t belong (since I hate riding my bike inside on a trainer) but I’m pretty sure once you’ve established a best time on a certain course you can have it appear as an avatar to chase and compete with. It just use your old ride, pretty simple. But doing it outside with AR glasses would be a whole nother ballgame and obviously require GPS link up.

      Thanks for the great comment!

  11. Great post Dave – well written and insightful!

    Another aspect to competition is a team approach. Creating a win-win environment where everyone improves. For example, if you had chosen to register a fast ride, those other fellows would likely have been motivating. In most other aspects of life, being supportive of others is generally reciprocated helping gain even greater results.

    • Dave @ Accidental FIRE says:

      Great point Shannon, the team approach is a great way and I’m of the opinion that team sports have a ton of benefits, mostly in dealing with others and having humility and grace.

  12. Hue Tu says:

    It is all a balance, right? Smelling the roses along the way. Not to be morbid, but don’t we all end up 6’ under at the end of this race we call life? Appreciating what fulfills and satisfy you must have a place. Pancakes with bananas and chocolate chip is a must. Or pumpkin pancakes with blueberries is the ultimate Rocky Mountain high.

  13. Love it man and is the attitude I hold while spending time in the mountains or on the bike, we challenge each other but support each other.

    “Positive competitiveness to me just means wanting to achieve the same level of success as someone else, but also wishing them further success. Because if they achieve even more success then your positive competitive nature will spur you on to do the same, and the cycle repeats. “

  14. Matt says:

    Awesome post! Comparison can be a very dangerous thing but it can also be useful. The challenge as you put it is making sure to use it the positive way as opposed to the soul crushing negative way.

    The ride sounds awesome! I just started riding again myself just in time for the start of a heat wave. 😛

    • Dave @ Accidental FIRE says:

      Look at it this way, the faster you ride the stronger the breeze you’re creating 🙂

  15. Chris@TTL says:

    I like the idea of highlighting comparison to your past self. That’s probably the most valuable comparison we can make.

    I find it sort of endearing to sometimes think of my future self like that.

    It’s like they’re a different person and I can imagine them thinking of current me and saying… “Hey, thanks for knuckling down all those years ago and getting it done.

    You helped me.”

    • Dave @ Accidental FIRE says:

      “Hey, thanks for knuckling down all those years ago and getting it done. You helped me.”

      Man I LOVE that! That’s a great way to visualize it, your future self giving a tip of the hat and some thanks. Great stuff

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